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2 1 Consider the remarkable inspiration this seems to indicate. Ammaron is confident enough in wherever he’s getting his inspiration that he instructs 10-yr-old Mormon to reclaim plates that will be hidden in a different land 14 years in the future, trusting that the then seemingly sober and quick to observe child will be responsible enough to take on that task nearly a decade and a half later. When my boys were deacon-aged (12-14 years old) they were each responsible kids, but I would not assume that they’d be responsible enough to take this on. This is an amazingly bold act of seership. Compare this to the “revelations” we get currently. | |
3 Therefore, when ye are about twenty and four years old I would that ye should remember the things that ye have observed concerning this people; and when ye are of that age go to the land Antum, unto a hill which shall be called Shim; and there have I deposited unto the Lord all the sacred engravings concerning this people. | 3 1 Mormon 1:2-4
Consider the remarkable inspiration this seems to indicate. Ammaron is confident enough in wherever he’s getting his inspiration that he instructs 10-yr-old Mormon to reclaim plates that will be hidden in a different land 14 years in the future, trusting that the then seemingly sober and quick to observe child will be responsible enough to take on that task nearly a decade and a half later.
When my boys were deacon-aged (12-14 years old) they were each responsible kids, but I would not assume that they’d be responsible enough to take this on. This is an amazingly bold act of seership. Compare this to the “revelations” we get currently. |
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Consider the remarkable inspiration this seems to indicate. Ammaron is confident enough in wherever he’s getting his inspiration that he instructs 10-yr-old Mormon to reclaim plates that will be hidden in a different land 14 years in the future, trusting that the then seemingly sober and quick to observe child will be responsible enough to take on that task nearly a decade and a half later.
When my boys were deacon-aged (12-14 years old) they were each responsible kids, but I would not assume that they’d be responsible enough to take this on. This is an amazingly bold act of seership. Compare this to the “revelations” we get currently. | |
Lineage-DNA 51 More than 900 years after Nephi leaves Jerusalem, Mormon claims to be a descendant of Nephi. | |
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7 1 It would seem that this kind of population size and construction would leave ample evidence, yet we have no evidence for Book of Mormon peoples. By way of contrast, consider the Viking settlement discovered in 1960 at L’Anse aux Meadows, Newfoundland, Canada, dated to about 1000 CE. There were eight buildings of wood and sod found (it may have supported 30-160 people), plenty of iron and smelting artifacts, and evidence suggesting the site may have been used only a few years (L’Anse aux Meadows National Historic Site). | |
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16 1 It’s interesting to me that in the Book of Mormon people are often willingly rebelling against God, and, as a result, becoming extremely wicked and ferocious. My observations in this day in age are that the ones who actually believe but fail to live the gospel are the Jack Mormons. But the Church seems to coddle them and have no fear of them. On the other hand, there are folks like me who have found, through rigorous research, what we think is overwhelming justification to conclude the Church is not what it claims. It cannot accurately be called willful rebellion because to be willful would require a knowledge or at least a belief that it was the will of God we were working against. To the contrary, for most of us, the things we rebel against are antithetical to what we consider to be the truth and what we consider to be virtuous. But who does the Church fear more? The Jack Mormons or the exMormon who disbelieve because they think there is overwhelming evidence justifying their conclusions about the Church? | |
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18 1 According to documents apparently from a court hearing about Joseph Smith’s treasure seeking with a seer stone, Jonathan Thompson testified that in one treasure digging led by Joseph, “on account of an enchantment, the trunk kept settling away from under them while digging; that, notwithstanding they continued constantly removing the dirt, yet the trunk kept about the same distance from them” (Fair Mormon, The 1826 Trial of Joseph Smith). There seems to be some controversy regarding the authenticity of this documented testimony, but it is uncontested that Joseph was hired on more than one occasion to seek treasure with his seer stone, and it was common folk lore of the time that buried treasure could slip away through the earth. “Getting the treasure was always difficult and harrowing. If not recovered quickly the trove sank into the earth’s depths” (Ronald W. Walker, The Persisting Idea of American Treasure Hunting, BYU Studies Quarterly Volume 24 | Issue 4 Article 4, 1 Oct 1984, p. 432). Which is more likely—that there were ancient Native Americans that were descendants of Hebrews that really experienced such a curse, or that this reflects a 19th century superstition of the author of the book? | |
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According to documents apparently from a court hearing about Joseph Smith’s treasure seeking with a seer stone, Jonathan Thompson testified that in one treasure digging led by Joseph, “on account of an enchantment, the trunk kept settling away from under them while digging; that, notwithstanding they continued constantly removing the dirt, yet the trunk kept about the same distance from them” ([Fair Mormon, The 1826 Trial of Joseph Smith](https://www.fairmormon.org/conference/august-2002/the-1826-trial-of-joseph-smith)).
There seems to be some controversy regarding the authenticity of this documented testimony, but it is uncontested that Joseph was hired on more than one occasion to seek treasure with his seer stone, and it was common folk lore of the time that buried treasure could slip away through the earth. “Getting the treasure was always difficult and harrowing. If not recovered quickly the trove sank into the earth’s depths” (Ronald W. Walker, [The Persisting Idea of American Treasure Hunting, BYU Studies Quarterly Volume 24 | Issue 4 Article 4, 1 Oct 1984](https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2288&context=byusq), p. 432).
Which is more likely—that there were ancient Native Americans that were descendants of Hebrews that really experienced such a curse, or that this reflects a 19th century superstition of the author of the book? |