Alma 60

 
1 And it came to pass that he wrote again to the governor of the land, who was Pahoran, and these are the words which he wrote, saying: Behold, I direct mine epistle to Pahoran, in the city of Zarahemla, who is the chief judge and the governor over the land, and also to all those who have been chosen by this people to govern and manage the affairs of this war.
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2 For behold, I have somewhat to say unto them by the way of condemnation; for behold, ye yourselves know that ye have been appointed to gather together men, and arm them with swords, and with cimeters, and all manner of weapons of war of every kind, and send forth against the Lamanites, in whatsoever parts they should come into our land.
AnachronismAnachronism - Sword
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This verse contains several parallels to various KJV bible verses. Compare this verse with "I have somewhat to say unto them" to 1 Kings 2:14 with "I have somewhat to say unto thee" (or its New Testament parallel in Luke 7:40). Note that there are only 6 instances of "have somewhat" in the KJV bible, with only 2 of those instances being "have somewhat to say".

Also compare this verse with "ye yourselves know that" to Acts 20:34 with "ye yourselves know, that". Note that while there are 10 instances of "ye yourselves" in the KJV bible, only the verse in Acts 20 and Acts 2:22 utilize the verb "know".

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The only pre-Columbian weapon I can find that was similar to a sword was the macuahuitl which was made with a plank of wood similar in shape to a cricket bat with obsidian blades mounted on the edges. It is similar enough to a sword that it is often referred to as the Aztec sword. However, the macuahuitl does not seem to fit the Book of Mormon time frame. “Some groups of Central Mexico, principally in the transition between the **Early and the Late Post-Classic**, probably developed this weapon” (emphasis added, Dr. Marco Antonio Cervera Obregón, “The macuahuitl: an innovative weapon of the Late Post-Classic in Mesoamerica”, Arms & Armour, Vol.3, Nov. 2, 2006, p. 146, [article from a research journal](http://www.woosterglobalhistory.org/LAcolonial/archive/files/23395812%5F33c717a7fb.pdf)). The Post-Classic period is between 900 CE and the Spanish conquest. “Sword” or “swords” are mentioned 11 times in this chapter.
3 And now behold, I say unto you that myself, and also my men, and also Helaman and his men, have suffered exceedingly great sufferings; yea, even hunger, thirst, and fatigue, and all manner of afflictions of every kind.
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4 But behold, were this all we had suffered we would not murmur nor complain.
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5 But behold, great has been the slaughter among our people; yea, thousands have fallen by the sword, while it might have otherwise been if ye had rendered unto our armies sufficient strength and succor for them. Yea, great has been your neglect towards us.
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Alma 60:5-7

Moroni, an allegedly great leader, just assumes his boss, the Governor Pahoran, is negligent and “in a state of thoughtless stupor,” and addresses the Governor thusly. The rest of the chapter goes on like this.

What would cause these negative assumptions and reaction by Moroni? Doesn’t this seem like an immature and dangerous reaction to a very serious situation for which he is completely ignorant of the causes? Yet he reacts brazenly toward Pahoran, on the verge of insurrection (verse 27), without considering that it might not be Pahoran’s fault. Can you imagine if Pahoran’s response had been lost or intercepted and Moroni marched against Pahoran in insurrection and found him?

Besides, doesn’t the slaughter of Moroni’s people contradict Alma 48:14-16 and Alma 56:46-48 where the Nephites and the stripling warriors respectively are said to be protected and saved from their enemies by God because of their faith?

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6 And now behold, we desire to know the cause of this exceedingly great neglect; yea, we desire to know the cause of your thoughtless state.
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Alma 60:5-7 Moroni, an allegedly great leader, just assumes his boss, the Governor Pahoran, is negligent and “in a state of thoughtless stupor,” and addresses the Governor thusly. The rest of the chapter goes on like this. What would cause these negative assumptions and reaction by Moroni? Doesn’t this seem like an immature and dangerous reaction to a very serious situation for which he is completely ignorant of the causes? Yet he reacts brazenly toward Pahoran, on the verge of insurrection (verse 27), without considering that it might not be Pahoran’s fault. Can you imagine if Pahoran’s response had been lost or intercepted and Moroni marched against Pahoran in insurrection and found him? Besides, doesn’t the slaughter of Moroni’s people contradict Alma 48:14-16 and Alma 56:46-48 where the Nephites and the stripling warriors respectively are said to be protected and saved from their enemies by God because of their faith?
7 Can you think to sit upon your thrones in a state of thoughtless stupor, while your enemies are spreading the work of death around you? Yea, while they are murdering thousands of your brethren--
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Alma 60:5-7 Moroni, an allegedly great leader, just assumes his boss, the Governor Pahoran, is negligent and “in a state of thoughtless stupor,” and addresses the Governor thusly. The rest of the chapter goes on like this. What would cause these negative assumptions and reaction by Moroni? Doesn’t this seem like an immature and dangerous reaction to a very serious situation for which he is completely ignorant of the causes? Yet he reacts brazenly toward Pahoran, on the verge of insurrection (verse 27), without considering that it might not be Pahoran’s fault. Can you imagine if Pahoran’s response had been lost or intercepted and Moroni marched against Pahoran in insurrection and found him? Besides, doesn’t the slaughter of Moroni’s people contradict Alma 48:14-16 and Alma 56:46-48 where the Nephites and the stripling warriors respectively are said to be protected and saved from their enemies by God because of their faith?
8 Yea, even they who have looked up to you for protection, yea, have placed you in a situation that ye might have succored them, yea, ye might have sent armies unto them, to have strengthened them, and have saved thousands of them from falling by the sword.
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9 But behold, this is not all--ye have withheld your provisions from them, insomuch that many have fought and bled out their lives because of their great desires which they had for the welfare of this people; yea, and this they have done when they were about to perish with hunger, because of your exceedingly great neglect towards them.
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This verse contains a few parallels to KJV bible verses. Compare this verse with "many have fought and bled out their lives because of their great desires which they had for the welfare of this people;.... because of your exceedingly great neglect towards them" to Jeremiah 38:4 with "for thus he weakeneth the hands of the men of war that remain in this city... for this man seeketh not the welfare of this people, but the hurt". Note that both of these verses address a person being blamed for harming a a larger military group. Also note that of the 7 instances of "welfare" in the KJV bible this is the only verse that applies the word to "people" (although Nehemiah 2:10 is close).

Again compare this verse with "they were about to perish with hunger" to Luke 15:17 with "and I perish with hunger!". Note that there are 6 instances of "perish with" in the KJV bible, but only the verse in Luke also refers to "hunger".

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10 And now, my beloved brethren--for ye ought to be beloved; yea, and ye ought to have stirred yourselves more diligently for the welfare and the freedom of this people; but behold, ye have neglected them insomuch that the blood of thousands shall come upon your heads for vengeance; yea, for known unto God were all their cries, and all their sufferings--
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11 Behold, could ye suppose that ye could sit upon your thrones, and because of the exceeding goodness of God ye could do nothing and he would deliver you? Behold, if ye have supposed this ye have supposed in vain.
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12 Do ye suppose that, because so many of your brethren have been killed it is because of their wickedness? I say unto you, if ye have supposed this ye have supposed in vain; for I say unto you, there are many who have fallen by the sword; and behold it is to your condemnation;
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Alma 60:12-13

And yet look at all the other references in the Book of Mormon that indicate the faithful are spared physical destruction. It seems that if a faithful person is spared death, God wins, yet if a faithful person dies, God wins.

Among the contradictory references is Alma 44:3-4, or Alma 48:14-16

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13 For the Lord suffereth the righteous to be slain that his justice and judgment may come upon the wicked; therefore ye need not suppose that the righteous are lost because they are slain; but behold, they do enter into the rest of the Lord their God.
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Alma 60:12-13 And yet look at all the other references in the Book of Mormon that indicate the faithful are spared physical destruction. It seems that if a faithful person is spared death, God wins, yet if a faithful person dies, God wins. Among the contradictory references is Alma 44:3-4, or Alma 48:14-16
14 And now behold, I say unto you, I fear exceedingly that the judgments of God will come upon this people, because of their exceeding slothfulness, yea, even the slothfulness of our government, and their exceedingly great neglect towards their brethren, yea, towards those who have been slain.
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15 For were it not for the wickedness which first commenced at our head, we could have withstood our enemies that they could have gained no power over us.
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16 Yea, had it not been for the war which broke out among ourselves; yea, were it not for these king-men, who caused so much bloodshed among ourselves; yea, at the time we were contending among ourselves, if we had united our strength as we hitherto have done; yea, had it not been for the desire of power and authority which those king-men had over us; had they been true to the cause of our freedom, and united with us, and gone forth against our enemies, instead of taking up their swords against us, which was the cause of so much bloodshed among ourselves; yea, if we had gone forth against them in the strength of the Lord, we should have dispersed our enemies, for it would have been done, according to the fulfilling of his word.
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17 But behold, now the Lamanites are coming upon us, taking possession of our lands, and they are murdering our people with the sword, yea, our women and our children, and also carrying them away captive, causing them that they should suffer all manner of afflictions, and this because of the great wickedness of those who are seeking for power and authority, yea, even those king-men.
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18 But why should I say much concerning this matter? For we know not but what ye yourselves are seeking for authority. We know not but what ye are also traitors to your country.
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19 Or is it that ye have neglected us because ye are in the heart of our country and ye are surrounded by security, that ye do not cause food to be sent unto us, and also men to strengthen our armies?
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20 Have ye forgotten the commandments of the Lord your God? Yea, have ye forgotten the captivity of our fathers? Have ye forgotten the many times we have been delivered out of the hands of our enemies?
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21 Or do ye suppose that the Lord will still deliver us, while we sit upon our thrones and do not make use of the means which the Lord has provided for us?
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22 Yea, will ye sit in idleness while ye are surrounded with thousands of those, yea, and tens of thousands, who do also sit in idleness, while there are thousands round about in the borders of the land who are falling by the sword, yea, wounded and bleeding?
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23 Do ye suppose that God will look upon you as guiltless while ye sit still and behold these things? Behold I say unto you, Nay. Now I would that ye should remember that God has said that the inward vessel shall be cleansed first, and then shall the outer vessel be cleansed also.
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This verse seems to resemble several specific verses in the KJV bible. Compare this verse with "Do ye suppose that God will look upon you as guiltless" to Exodus 20:7 with "for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain". Note that of the 10 instances of "guiltless" in the KJV bible, only the verse in Exodus (or its repetition in Deuteronomy 5:11) have a person being viewed as guiltless specifically by the LORD / God.

Also compare this verse with "the inward vessel shall be cleansed first, and then shall the outer vessel be cleansed also" to Matthew 23:26 with "cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also" (and also the similar Luke 11:39). Note that of the 12 instances of "inward" in the KJV bible, only those 2 New Testament verses directly address cleaning an inward cup or vessel. There is no Old Testament verse that is strongly similar.

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24 And now, except ye do repent of that which ye have done, and begin to be up and doing, and send forth food and men unto us, and also unto Helaman, that he may support those parts of our country which he has regained, and that we may also recover the remainder of our possessions in these parts, behold it will be expedient that we contend no more with the Lamanites until we have first cleansed our inward vessel, yea, even the great head of our government.
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25 And except ye grant mine epistle, and come out and show unto me a true spirit of freedom, and strive to strengthen and fortify our armies, and grant unto them food for their support, behold I will leave a part of my freemen to maintain this part of our land, and I will leave the strength and the blessings of God upon them, that none other power can operate against them--
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26 And this because of their exceeding faith, and their patience in their tribulations--
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27 And I will come unto you, and if there be any among you that has a desire for freedom, yea, if there be even a spark of freedom remaining, behold I will stir up insurrections among you, even until those who have desires to usurp power and authority shall become extinct.
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28 Yea, behold I do not fear your power nor your authority, but it is my God whom I fear; and it is according to his commandments that I do take my sword to defend the cause of my country, and it is because of your iniquity that we have suffered so much loss.
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29 Behold it is time, yea, the time is now at hand, that except ye do bestir yourselves in the defence of your country and your little ones, the sword of justice doth hang over you; yea, and it shall fall upon you and visit you even to your utter destruction.
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30 Behold, I wait for assistance from you; and, except ye do administer unto our relief, behold, I come unto you, even in the land of Zarahemla, and smite you with the sword, insomuch that ye can have no more power to impede the progress of this people in the cause of our freedom.
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31 For behold, the Lord will not suffer that ye shall live and wax strong in your iniquities to destroy his righteous people.
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32 Behold, can you suppose that the Lord will spare you and come out in judgment against the Lamanites, when it is the tradition of their fathers that has caused their hatred, yea, and it has been redoubled by those who have dissented from us, while your iniquity is for the cause of your love of glory and the vain things of the world?
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33 Ye know that ye do transgress the laws of God, and ye do know that ye do trample them under your feet. Behold, the Lord saith unto me: If those whom ye have appointed your governors do not repent of their sins and iniquities, ye shall go up to battle against them.
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34 And now behold, I, Moroni, am constrained, according to the covenant which I have made to keep the commandments of my God; therefore I would that ye should adhere to the word of God, and send speedily unto me of your provisions and of your men, and also to Helaman.
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35 And behold, if ye will not do this I come unto you speedily; for behold, God will not suffer that we should perish with hunger; therefore he will give unto us of your food, even if it must be by the sword. Now see that ye fulfil the word of God.
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This verse contains parallels to two KJV New Testament verses. Compare this verse with "they were about to perish with hunger" to Luke 15:17 with "and I perish with hunger!". Note that there are 6 instances of "perish with" in the KJV bible, but only the verse in Luke also refers to "hunger".

Also compare this verse with "Now see that ye fulfil the word of God" to Colossians 1:25 with "according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God". Note that the phrase "fulfill the word of God" is unique within the KJV bible.

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36 Behold, I am Moroni, your chief captain. I seek not for power, but to pull it down. I seek not for honor of the world, but for the glory of my God, and the freedom and welfare of my country. And thus I close mine epistle.
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