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2 Now behold, my son, I will explain this thing unto thee. For behold, after the Lord God sent our first parents forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground, from whence they were taken--yea, he drew out the man, and he placed at the east end of the garden of Eden, cherubim, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the tree of life-- | 2 |
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6 1 This verse contains a strong parallel to a KJV New Testament verse. Compare this verse with "it was appointed unto man to die" to Hebrews 9:27 with "as it is appointed unto men once to die". Note that while there are no instances of "appointed unto man" in the KJV bible, there is only one instance of "appointed unto men". | |
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13 Therefore, according to justice, the plan of redemption could not be brought about, only on conditions of repentance of men in this probationary state, yea, this preparatory state; for except it were for these conditions, mercy could not take effect except it should destroy the work of justice. Now the work of justice could not be destroyed; if so, God would cease to be God. | 13 |
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Endless/Eternal Punishment 161 Now this is interesting because D&C 19:6 says, “Nevertheless, it is not written that there shall be no end to this torment, but it is written endless torment,” and it goes on to say that it is endless because Endless is the Lords name, eternal and endless punishment are the Lord’s punishment, not punishment without end. Therefore, if we take this chapter in the D&C at its word, this verse in Alma may not be saying the life of the soul has no end, but rather that the life of the soul is God’s. | |
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19 1 Isn’t this an appeal to fear? First of all, many would still fear death even if they thought murder was not a sin because death scares people regardless of their beliefs. Even many (most?) of those who believe in an afterlife and have led good lives fear death. Secondly, there’s a much higher level of morality than to appeal to fear. What about love? What about gratitude? What about empathy? | |
20 1 Alma 42:19-20
Isn’t this an appeal to fear?
First of all, many would still fear death even if they thought murder was not a sin because death scares people regardless of their beliefs. Even many (most?) of those who believe in an afterlife and have led good lives fear death.
Secondly, there’s a much higher level of morality than to appeal to fear. What about love? What about gratitude? What about empathy? | |
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22 But there is a law given, and a punishment affixed, and a repentance granted; which repentance, mercy claimeth; otherwise, justice claimeth the creature and executeth the law, and the law inflicteth the punishment; if not so, the works of justice would be destroyed, and God would cease to be God. | 22 |
23 But God ceaseth not to be God, and mercy claimeth the penitent, and mercy cometh because of the atonement; and the atonement bringeth to pass the resurrection of the dead; and the resurrection of the dead bringeth back men into the presence of God; and thus they are restored into his presence, to be judged according to their works, according to the law and justice. | 23 1 Thus we are saved by a Human sacrifice if this is taken literally instead of figuratively. This gospel comes from an ancient time, and this sacrifice (if read literally) seems to reflect the thinking of the people of that time. |
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27 1 Compare this verse with "whosoever will come may come and partake of the waters of life freely" to Revelation 22:17 with "let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely". Note that the phrase "water of life" is only found in 3 instances in the KJV bible, while "waters of life" is not found. 1 In this context, is it really partaking freely? Don’t forget the appeal to fear in verses 19-20. Not to mention that even when this is all laid out before most, they don’t see it as even reasonable. Are we to be held accountable to believe in LDS teachings that most find impossible to believe? | |
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30 O my son, I desire that ye should deny the justice of God no more. Do not endeavor to excuse yourself in the least point because of your sins, by denying the justice of God; but do you let the justice of God, and his mercy, and his long-suffering have full sway in your heart; and let it bring you down to the dust in humility. | 30 |
31 And now, O my son, ye are called of God to preach the word unto this people. And now, my son, go thy way, declare the word with truth and soberness, that thou mayest bring souls unto repentance, that the great plan of mercy may have claim upon them. And may God grant unto you even according to my words. Amen. | 31 |