Mormon 8

 
1 Behold I, Moroni, do finish the record of my father, Mormon. Behold, I have but few things to write, which things I have been commanded by my father.
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2 And now it came to pass that after the great and tremendous battle at Cumorah, behold, the Nephites who had escaped into the country southward were hunted by the Lamanites, until they were all destroyed.
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3 And my father also was killed by them, and I even remain alone to write the sad tale of the destruction of my people. But behold, they are gone, and I fulfil the commandment of my father. And whether they will slay me, I know not.
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The phrases and tone of this verse resembles several KJV Old Testament verses. Compare this verse with "and I even remain alone... And whether they will slay me, I know not" to 1 Kings 19:10 with "and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away". Next compare this verse with "and I even remain alone to write the sad tale" to Job 1:15 with "and I only am escaped alone to tell thee". Lastly compare this verse with "sad tale of the destruction of my people. But behold, they are gone" to Hosea 9:6 with "For, lo, they are gone because of destruction".

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4 Therefore I will write and hide up the records in the earth; and whither I go it mattereth not.
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5 Behold, my father hath made this record, and he hath written the intent thereof. And behold, I would write it also if I had room upon the plates, but I have not; and ore I have none, for I am alone. My father hath been slain in battle, and all my kinsfolk, and I have not friends nor whither to go; and how long the Lord will suffer that I may live I know not.
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6 Behold, four hundred years have passed away since the coming of our Lord and Savior.
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This verse contains a rare element from the KJV New Testament. Compare Mormon 8:6 with "since the coming of our Lord and Savior" to 2 Peter 1:11,16 with "kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ" and "coming of our Lord Jesus Christ". Note that there are only 2 instances of "Lord and Saviour" within the KJV bible (with 2 Peter 3:18) being the other passage. Also note that there is one other Book of Mormon instance, in Mormon 3:14. Lastly note that there are only 5 instances of "coming of our Lord" in the KJV bible.

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7 And behold, the Lamanites have hunted my people, the Nephites, down from city to city and from place to place, even until they are no more; and great has been their fall; yea, great and marvelous is the destruction of my people, the Nephites.
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8 And behold, it is the hand of the Lord which hath done it. And behold also, the Lamanites are at war one with another; and the whole face of this land is one continual round of murder and bloodshed; and no one knoweth the end of the war.
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9 And now, behold, I say no more concerning them, for there are none save it be the Lamanites and robbers that do exist upon the face of the land.
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10 And there are none that do know the true God save it be the disciples of Jesus, who did tarry in the land until the wickedness of the people was so great that the Lord would not suffer them to remain with the people; and whether they be upon the face of the land no man knoweth.
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11 But behold, my father and I have seen them, and they have ministered unto us.
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12 And whoso receiveth this record, and shall not condemn it because of the imperfections which are in it, the same shall know of greater things than these. Behold, I am Moroni; and were it possible, I would make all things known unto you.
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13 Behold, I make an end of speaking concerning this people. I am the son of Mormon, and my father was a descendant of Nephi.
Lineage-DNA
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Moroni indicates his descent from Nephi about 1,000 years after Nephi’s departure from Jerusalem.

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14 And I am the same who hideth up this record unto the Lord; the plates thereof are of no worth, because of the commandment of the Lord. For he truly saith that no one shall have them to get gain; but the record thereof is of great worth; and whoso shall bring it to light, him will the Lord bless.
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15 For none can have power to bring it to light save it be given him of God; for God wills that it shall be done with an eye single to his glory, or the welfare of the ancient and long dispersed covenant people of the Lord.
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16 And blessed be he that shall bring this thing to light; for it shall be brought out of darkness unto light, according to the word of God; yea, it shall be brought out of the earth, and it shall shine forth out of darkness, and come unto the knowledge of the people; and it shall be done by the power of God.
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17 And if there be faults they be the faults of a man. But behold, we know no fault; nevertheless God knoweth all things; therefore, he that condemneth, let him be aware lest he shall be in danger of hell fire.
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Mormon 8:17-18

Though Moroni and his contemporaries know no faults, I think they are abundant and easy to find with critical thinking. If I am in danger of hell fire for seeking to better understand something, I’m willing to take that risk.

I have asked for evidence that my conclusions are wrong. None seem up to the task of giving me that evidence as of yet. I was even told that for seeking evidence, I was a sign seeker. This in spite of the fact that evidence in order to believe seems to be approved earlier in Helaman 5:50 when prisoners saw sons of Helaman, Nephi and Lehi, encircled as if by fire; saw angels; and heard voices. When the prisoners told the Lamanites about this, “the more part of the Lamanites were convinced of them, because of the greatness of the evidences.”

And, as it says in 1 Thessalonians 5:21, “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.”

As a non-theist, I have faith that if there is a God worth worshiping, they will understand my insistence on critically examining extraordinary claims and demanding extraordinary evidence before believing such claims. Consider in the following quote by Thomas Jefferson whether faith which is actionable unto progress is based on fear or confidence in using the best tools available for understanding reality.

“Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.”

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18 And he that saith: Show unto me, or ye shall be smitten--let him beware lest he commandeth that which is forbidden of the Lord.
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Mormon 8:17-18 Though Moroni and his contemporaries know no faults, I think they are abundant and easy to find with critical thinking. If I am in danger of hell fire for seeking to better understand something, I’m willing to take that risk. I have asked for evidence that my conclusions are wrong. None seem up to the task of giving me that evidence as of yet. I was even told that for seeking evidence, I was a sign seeker. This in spite of the fact that evidence in order to believe seems to be approved earlier in Helaman 5:50 when prisoners saw sons of Helaman, Nephi and Lehi, encircled as if by fire; saw angels; and heard voices. When the prisoners told the Lamanites about this, “the more part of the Lamanites were convinced of them, because of the greatness of the evidences.” And, as it says in 1 Thessalonians 5:21, “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.” As a non-theist, I have faith that if there is a God worth worshiping, they will understand my insistence on critically examining extraordinary claims and demanding extraordinary evidence before believing such claims. Consider in the following quote by Thomas Jefferson whether faith which is actionable unto progress is based on fear or confidence in using the best tools available for understanding reality. “Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.”
19 For behold, the same that judgeth rashly shall be judged rashly again; for according to his works shall his wages be; therefore, he that smiteth shall be smitten again, of the Lord.
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20 Behold what the scripture says--man shall not smite, neither shall he judge; for judgment is mine, saith the Lord, and vengeance is mine also, and I will repay.
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21 And he that shall breathe out wrath and strifes against the work of the Lord, and against the covenant people of the Lord who are the house of Israel, and shall say: We will destroy the work of the Lord, and the Lord will not remember his covenant which he hath made unto the house of Israel--the same is in danger to be hewn down and cast into the fire;
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Does it make sense that someone who believes in the Lord would operate on the basis of trying to destroy the work of the Lord?

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22 For the eternal purposes of the Lord shall roll on, until all his promises shall be fulfilled.
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23 Search the prophecies of Isaiah. Behold, I cannot write them. Yea, behold I say unto you, that those saints who have gone before me, who have possessed this land, shall cry, yea, even from the dust will they cry unto the Lord; and as the Lord liveth he will remember the covenant which he hath made with them.
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24 And he knoweth their prayers, that they were in behalf of their brethren. And he knoweth their faith, for in his name could they remove mountains; and in his name could they cause the earth to shake; and by the power of his word did they cause prisons to tumble to the earth; yea, even the fiery furnace could not harm them, neither wild beasts nor poisonous serpents, because of the power of his word.
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Think about the mighty miracles claimed here compared to what current prophets, seers, and revelators do.

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25 And behold, their prayers were also in behalf of him that the Lord should suffer to bring these things forth.
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26 And no one need say they shall not come, for they surely shall, for the Lord hath spoken it; for out of the earth shall they come, by the hand of the Lord, and none can stay it; and it shall come in a day when it shall be said that miracles are done away; and it shall come even as if one should speak from the dead.
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27 And it shall come in a day when the blood of saints shall cry unto the Lord, because of secret combinations and the works of darkness.
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28 Yea, it shall come in a day when the power of God shall be denied, and churches become defiled and be lifted up in the pride of their hearts; yea, even in a day when leaders of churches and teachers shall rise in the pride of their hearts, even to the envying of them who belong to their churches.
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29 Yea, it shall come in a day when there shall be heard of fires, and tempests, and vapors of smoke in foreign lands;
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30 And there shall also be heard of wars, rumors of wars, and earthquakes in divers places.
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31 Yea, it shall come in a day when there shall be great pollutions upon the face of the earth; there shall be murders, and robbing, and lying, and deceivings, and whoredoms, and all manner of abominations; when there shall be many who will say, Do this, or do that, and it mattereth not, for the Lord will uphold such at the last day. But wo unto such, for they are in the gall of bitterness and in the bonds of iniquity.
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32 Yea, it shall come in a day when there shall be churches built up that shall say: Come unto me, and for your money you shall be forgiven of your sins.
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Isn’t this similar to, “Come unto me, and for your money you shall be allowed salvific ordinances in the temple.”?

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33 O ye wicked and perverse and stiffnecked people, why have ye built up churches unto yourselves to get gain? Why have ye transfigured the holy word of God, that ye might bring damnation upon your souls? Behold, look ye unto the revelations of God; for behold, the time cometh at that day when all these things must be fulfilled.
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34 Behold, the Lord hath shown unto me great and marvelous things concerning that which must shortly come, at that day when these things shall come forth among you.
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35 Behold, I speak unto you as if ye were present, and yet ye are not. But behold, Jesus Christ hath shown you unto me, and I know your doing.
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36 And I know that ye do walk in the pride of your hearts; and there are none save a few only who do not lift themselves up in the pride of their hearts, unto the wearing of very fine apparel, unto envying, and strifes, and malice, and persecutions, and all manner of iniquities; and your churches, yea, even every one, have become polluted because of the pride of your hearts.
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37 For behold, ye do love money, and your substance, and your fine apparel, and the adorning of your churches, more than ye love the poor and the needy, the sick and the afflicted.
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According to the LA Times, the San Diego temple, dedicated in 1993, cost $24 million to build at that time (Los Angeles Times article). To get an idea of the cost to decorate, consider that according to a list given to MormonLeaks, a temple Brides Room rug had cost $17,000 (MormonLeaks document). These are just two among many examples of expenditures that could have gone to feeding the poor and needy or treating the sick and the afflicted.

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38 O ye pollutions, ye hypocrites, ye teachers, who sell yourselves for that which will canker, why have ye polluted the holy church of God? Why are ye ashamed to take upon you the name of Christ? Why do ye not think that greater is the value of an endless happiness than that misery which never dies--because of the praise of the world?
Endless/Eternal Punishment
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This juxtaposes endless happiness with misery which never dies. One is left to wonder what it means exactly that this misery never dies, since according to D&C 19:6-12 the words “endless” and “eternal” do not mean without end when it comes to torment or damnation. These verses in the D&C explain that “endless” and “eternal” are used because, “it is more express than other scriptures, that it might work upon the hearts of the children of men.” When people read these words in the Book of Mormon, how do they likely understand the words “endless” and “eternal”? Is this honest communication if D&C 19 reveals the actual meaning of these words? Does “which never dies” also not mean without end?

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39 Why do ye adorn yourselves with that which hath no life, and yet suffer the hungry, and the needy, and the naked, and the sick and the afflicted to pass by you, and notice them not?
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40 Yea, why do ye build up your secret abominations to get gain, and cause that widows should mourn before the Lord, and also orphans to mourn before the Lord, and also the blood of their fathers and their husbands to cry unto the Lord from the ground, for vengeance upon your heads?
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41 Behold, the sword of vengeance hangeth over you; and the time soon cometh that he avengeth the blood of the saints upon you, for he will not suffer their cries any longer.
Anachronism
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The only pre-Columbian weapon I can find that was similar to a sword was the macuahuitl which was made with a plank of wood similar in shape to a cricket bat with obsidian blades mounted on the edges. It is similar enough to a sword that it is often referred to as the Aztec sword.

However, the macuahuitl does not seem to fit the Book of Mormon time frame. “Some groups of Central Mexico, principally in the transition between the Early and the Late Post-Classic, probably developed this weapon” (emphasis added, Dr. Marco Antonio Cervera Obregón, “The macuahuitl: an innovative weapon of the Late Post-Classic in Mesoamerica”, Arms & Armour, Vol.3, Nov. 2, 2006, p. 146, article from a research journal). The Post-Classic period is between 900 CE and the Spanish conquest.

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