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3 1 Note how verse 3 parallels Luke 22:6 (and Matthew 26:16) with the phrase "sought opportunity" which is only found in these 2 verses in the KJV bible. Notice how the end of verse 14 also parallels a verse from that same chapter, Luke 22:42. Compare "And thy will, O Lord, be done, and not mine" to "nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done". | |
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5 And he had hope to shake me from the faith, notwithstanding the many revelations and the many things which I had seen concerning these things; for I truly had seen angels, and they had ministered unto me. And also, I had heard the voice of the Lord speaking unto me in very word, from time to time; wherefore, I could not be shaken. | 5 1 Notice how cavalierly Jacob speaks of his many revelations, seeing angels, being ministered unto by angels, and actually hearing the voice of the Lord speak to him in very word. With scripture like this, does it make any sense for anyone to defend apostles and prophets being ambiguous about whether or not they’ve seen Jesus by saying the experiences are too sacred to share? |
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7 And ye have led away much of this people that they pervert the right way of God, and keep not the law of Moses which is the right way; and convert the law of Moses into the worship of a being which ye say shall come many hundred years hence. And now behold, I, Sherem, declare unto you that this is blasphemy; for no man knoweth of such things; for he cannot tell of things to come. And after this manner did Sherem contend against me. | 7 |
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10 1 It is true that, in as much as “Christ” is from the Greek word Christos which means anointed one, many of the prophets wrote of the anointed one. The Hebrew word for anointed one is Messiah which is what they would have had in their Jewish records at this point. But, if we are to take the Book of Mormon on its word, 2 Ne 10:3 tells us that Christ was Jesus’ name. However, Christ is from the Greek “Christos” which is a title meaning “anointed” or “anointed one.” But for the sake of argument, let’s assume that these ancient Hebrews, hundreds of years BCE are using the Greek “Christos” as a name for Jesus the coming Messiah. This verse tells us that the prophets before this all spoke concerning this Christos. However, there is not one mention of Christos (by this claimed name) in any ancient text yet found. | |
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It is true that, in as much as “Christ” is from the Greek word Christos which means anointed one, many of the prophets wrote of the anointed one. The Hebrew word for anointed one is Messiah which is what they would have had in their Jewish records at this point. But, if we are to take the Book of Mormon on its word, 2 Ne 10:3 tells us that Christ was Jesus’ name. However, Christ is from the Greek “Christos” which is a title meaning “anointed” or “anointed one.” But for the sake of argument, let’s assume that these ancient Hebrews, hundreds of years BCE are using the Greek “Christos” as a name for Jesus the coming Messiah. This verse tells us that the prophets before this all spoke concerning this Christos. However, there is not one mention of Christos (by this claimed name) in any ancient text yet found. | |
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13 1 Book of Mormon prophets and modern LDS prophets teach that the Book of Mormon was written for our day and that believers should liken its words unto themselves. This is a case where it doesn’t work that well. Some may seek miraculous signs like Sherem, but most people would just like reasonable evidence for the extraordinary claims of the Book of Mormon including the divinity of Christ. I think the Book of Mormon itself teaches that seeking evidence is valid and good. 2 Ne 11:4, 6-7 - Nephi’s “soul delighteth in proving unto [his] people the truth.” Helaman 5:50 - Prisoners see sons of Helaman, Nephi and Lehi, encircled as if by fire; see angels; and hear voices. When the prisoners told the Lamanites about this, “the more part of the Lamanites were convinced of them, because of the greatness of the evidences.” Don’t give us signs. Please give us extraordinary evidence. | |
14 And I said unto him: What am I that I should tempt God to show unto thee a sign in the thing which thou knowest to be true? Yet thou wilt deny it, because thou art of the devil. Nevertheless, not my will be done; but if God shall smite thee, let that be a sign unto thee that he has power, both in heaven and in earth; and also, that Christ shall come. And thy will, O Lord, be done, and not mine. | 14 1 Unfortunately many devout believers liken this verse unto themselves, accusing former believers of knowing the LDS Church is what it claims to be, or asserting that former belieivers are of the devil. 1 Note how verse 3 parallels Luke 22:6 (and Matthew 26:16) with the phrase "sought opportunity" which is only found in these 2 verses in the KJV bible.
Notice how the end of verse 14 also parallels a verse from that same chapter, Luke 22:42. Compare "And thy will, O Lord, be done, and not mine" to "nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done". |
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18 1 Verses 18-21 contain many strong parallels to the KJV bible passage Acts 5:3-5. Note that in both passages the person in error has their sins attributed to the devil, next they lie to God or to the Holy Ghost, then they die through miraculous means, and lastly this divine punishment inspires a positive reactions from the audience of faithful people. The phrase "unto God" occurs 84 times within the KJV bible, but only once in conjunction with any type of lying, which is found in Acts 5:4. The phrase "gave up the ghost" is found 10 times in the bible, but only twice with the context of a divine punishment toward a wicked person, in Acts 5:4 and Acts 12:23. Both the Jacob 7 passage and the Acts 5 passage also contain people that “fell,” as well as the phrase “these words” followed by the phrase “these things.” 1 According to D&C 19:6-12 the words “endless” and “eternal” do not mean without end when it comes to “endless torment” or “eternal damnation”. These verses in the D&C explain that these words are used because, “it is more express than other scriptures, that it might work upon the hearts of the children of men.” When people read these words in the Book of Mormon, how do they likely understand the words “endless” and “eternal”? Is this honest communication if D&C 19 reveals the actual meaning of these words? | |
19 1 Verses 18-21 contain many strong parallels to the KJV bible passage Acts 5:3-5. Note that in both passages the person in error has their sins attributed to the devil, next they lie to God or to the Holy Ghost, then they die through miraculous means, and lastly this divine punishment inspires a positive reactions from the audience of faithful people.
The phrase "[unto God](https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?hs=1&q=%22unto+God%22)" occurs 84 times within the KJV bible, but only once in conjunction with any type of lying, which is found in Acts 5:4. The phrase "[gave up the ghost](https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?hs=1&q=%22gave+up+the+ghost%22)" is found 10 times in the bible, but only twice with the context of a divine punishment toward a wicked person, in Acts 5:4 and Acts 12:23.
Both the Jacob 7 passage and the Acts 5 passage also contain people that “fell,” as well as the phrase “these words” followed by the phrase “these things.” | |
20 1 Verses 18-21 contain many strong parallels to the KJV bible passage Acts 5:3-5. Note that in both passages the person in error has their sins attributed to the devil, next they lie to God or to the Holy Ghost, then they die through miraculous means, and lastly this divine punishment inspires a positive reactions from the audience of faithful people.
The phrase "[unto God](https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?hs=1&q=%22unto+God%22)" occurs 84 times within the KJV bible, but only once in conjunction with any type of lying, which is found in Acts 5:4. The phrase "[gave up the ghost](https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?hs=1&q=%22gave+up+the+ghost%22)" is found 10 times in the bible, but only twice with the context of a divine punishment toward a wicked person, in Acts 5:4 and Acts 12:23.
Both the Jacob 7 passage and the Acts 5 passage also contain people that “fell,” as well as the phrase “these words” followed by the phrase “these things.” | |
21 1 First example I’ve noticed in Book of Mormon of a group being so astonished or overtaken by the Spirit that they all fall to the earth. 1 Verses 18-21 contain many strong parallels to the KJV bible passage Acts 5:3-5. Note that in both passages the person in error has their sins attributed to the devil, next they lie to God or to the Holy Ghost, then they die through miraculous means, and lastly this divine punishment inspires a positive reactions from the audience of faithful people.
The phrase "[unto God](https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?hs=1&q=%22unto+God%22)" occurs 84 times within the KJV bible, but only once in conjunction with any type of lying, which is found in Acts 5:4. The phrase "[gave up the ghost](https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?hs=1&q=%22gave+up+the+ghost%22)" is found 10 times in the bible, but only twice with the context of a divine punishment toward a wicked person, in Acts 5:4 and Acts 12:23.
Both the Jacob 7 passage and the Acts 5 passage also contain people that “fell,” as well as the phrase “these words” followed by the phrase “these things.” | |
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24 And it came to pass that many means were devised to reclaim and restore the Lamanites to the knowledge of the truth; but it all was vain, for they delighted in wars and bloodshed, and they had an eternal hatred against us, their brethren. And they sought by the power of their arms to destroy us continually. | 24 |
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26 And it came to pass that I, Jacob, began to be old; and the record of this people being kept on the other plates of Nephi, wherefore, I conclude this record, declaring that I have written according to the best of my knowledge, by saying that the time passed away with us, and also our lives passed away like as it were unto us a dream, we being a lonesome and a solemn people, wanderers, cast out from Jerusalem, born in tribulation, in a wilderness, and hated of our brethren, which caused wars and contentions; wherefore, we did mourn out our days. | 26 2 From piotrkaplanstwo at exMormon Reddit,
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27 And I, Jacob, saw that I must soon go down to my grave; wherefore, I said unto my son Enos: Take these plates. And I told him the things which my brother Nephi had commanded me, and he promised obedience unto the commands. And I make an end of my writing upon these plates, which writing has been small; and to the reader I bid farewell, hoping that many of my brethren may read my words. Brethren, adieu. | 27 2 Quite a few critics of the Book of Mormon argue that a French word would not have been used in a translation from reformed Egyptian to English. I don’t find the criticism convincing. I like this argument: “The word adieu is defined in a dictionary of Joseph Smith’s day as ‘a farewell; an expression of kind wishes at the parting of friends’ [meaning that I commend you to God]. (Noah Webster, An American Dictionary of the English Language, 1828). While the word is of French origin, it had found common usage in early nineteenth century New England” (Edward J. Brandt, “I Have a Question,” Ensign, Oct. 1985). |