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1 And now it came to pass that there were a great multitude gathered together, of the people of Nephi, round about the temple which was in the land Bountiful; and they were marveling and wondering one with another, and were showing one to another the great and marvelous change which had taken place. | 1 |
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3 And it came to pass that while they were thus conversing one with another, they heard a voice as if it came out of heaven; and they cast their eyes round about, for they understood not the voice which they heard; and it was not a harsh voice, neither was it a loud voice; nevertheless, and notwithstanding it being a small voice it did pierce them that did hear to the center, insomuch that there was no part of their frame that it did not cause to quake; yea, it did pierce them to the very soul, and did cause their hearts to burn. | 3 1 This verse contains elements from two different KJV bible verses. Compare this verse with "it was not a harsh voice, neither was it a loud voice; nevertheless, and notwithstanding it being a small voice" to 1 Kings 19:11-12 with "but the Lord was not in the earthquake: And after the earthquake a fire; but the Lord was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice". Note that the phrase "small voice" is unique within the KJV bible. Also compare this verse with "and did cause their hearts to burn" to Luke 24:32 with "Did not our heart burn within us". Note that this is one of the few instances in the KJV where a variation of heart and burn (see KJV search) are found in close conjunction (the other being Jeremiah 20:9). |
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7 1 3 Ne 11:7-8 So these folks, “were also conversing about this Jesus Christ” (verse 2) when they hear a voice so amazing that, “it did pierce them to the very soul, and did cause their hearts to burn.” The voice tells them, “Behold my Beloved Son.” And then they don’t get who the guy is appearing to them? Keep in mind that these are the more faithful inhabitants since the wicked had just been destroyed. | |
8 And it came to pass, as they understood they cast their eyes up again towards heaven; and behold, they saw a Man descending out of heaven; and he was clothed in a white robe; and he came down and stood in the midst of them; and the eyes of the whole multitude were turned upon him, and they durst not open their mouths, even one to another, and wist not what it meant, for they thought it was an angel that had appeared unto them. | 8 1 3 Ne 11:7-8
So these folks, “were also conversing about this Jesus Christ” (verse 2) when they hear a voice so amazing that, “it did pierce them to the very soul, and did cause their hearts to burn.”
The voice tells them, “Behold my Beloved Son.”
And then they don’t get who the guy is appearing to them?
Keep in mind that these are the more faithful inhabitants since the wicked had just been destroyed. |
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Falling in astonishment 121 More falling to the earth out of astonishment. | |
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15 And it came to pass that the multitude went forth, and thrust their hands into his side, and did feel the prints of the nails in his hands and in his feet; and this they did do, going forth one by one until they had all gone forth, and did see with their eyes and did feel with their hands, and did know of a surety and did bear record, that it was he, of whom it was written by the prophets, that should come. | 15 1 In 3 Ne 17:25 we learn that there were 2,500 persons in this multitude, and this verse tells us all lined up to feel Jesus. If each person took only 10 seconds on average to thrust their hands into his side and feel the prints of the nails on his hands and his feet, this would have taken 6.9 hours. On the one hand it seems like a mere 10 seconds each would make the experience like a monotonous and tedious activity sort of like assembly line work. On the other hand, even at 10 seconds per person, would the nearly seven hours of everybody waiting as each person looked and touched be worth the time? |
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Which way is it? 211 3 Ne 11:21-26 In 3 Ne 7:23-25 we learn that in the 33rd year since the sign of the Savior’s birth, Nephi and others he had ordained had already been baptizing those who repented. But these verses would indicate that Nephi didn’t have the power to baptize or know how to perform the ordinance until after Jesus appeared and gave them this power and instructions. Which way is it? | |
Which way is it? 221 3 Ne 11:21-26
In 3 Ne 7:23-25 we learn that in the 33rd year since the sign of the Savior’s birth, Nephi and others he had ordained had already been baptizing those who repented. But these verses would indicate that Nephi didn’t have the power to baptize or know how to perform the ordinance until after Jesus appeared and gave them this power and instructions. Which way is it? | |
23 1 3 Ne 11:21-26
In 3 Ne 7:23-25 we learn that in the 33rd year since the sign of the Savior’s birth, Nephi and others he had ordained had already been baptizing those who repented. But these verses would indicate that Nephi didn’t have the power to baptize or know how to perform the ordinance until after Jesus appeared and gave them this power and instructions. Which way is it? | |
24 1 3 Ne 11:21-26
In 3 Ne 7:23-25 we learn that in the 33rd year since the sign of the Savior’s birth, Nephi and others he had ordained had already been baptizing those who repented. But these verses would indicate that Nephi didn’t have the power to baptize or know how to perform the ordinance until after Jesus appeared and gave them this power and instructions. Which way is it? | |
25 2 It's noteworthy that the baptismal wording in “the most correct of any book on earth” (Joseph Smith, Book of Mormon Introduction, sixth paragraph) is different than the baptismal wording required today: “Having authority given me of Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen” (3 Nephi 11:25). vs. “Having been commissioned of Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen” (D&C 20:73). 1 3 Ne 11:21-26
In 3 Ne 7:23-25 we learn that in the 33rd year since the sign of the Savior’s birth, Nephi and others he had ordained had already been baptizing those who repented. But these verses would indicate that Nephi didn’t have the power to baptize or know how to perform the ordinance until after Jesus appeared and gave them this power and instructions. Which way is it? | |
26 1 3 Ne 11:21-26
In 3 Ne 7:23-25 we learn that in the 33rd year since the sign of the Savior’s birth, Nephi and others he had ordained had already been baptizing those who repented. But these verses would indicate that Nephi didn’t have the power to baptize or know how to perform the ordinance until after Jesus appeared and gave them this power and instructions. Which way is it? | |
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29 1 If contention is not of the Lord, why did the Lord order the wholesale slaughter and genocide of the Midianites in Numbers 31:1-17? | |
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32 And this is my doctrine, and it is the doctrine which the Father hath given unto me; and I bear record of the Father, and the Father beareth record of me, and the Holy Ghost beareth record of the Father and me; and I bear record that the Father commandeth all men, everywhere, to repent and believe in me. | 32 |
33 1 3 Ne 11:33-40 So according to this, Jesus declared “ye must repent, and become as a little child, and be baptized in my name, or you can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God . . . And whoso shall declare more or less than this, and establish it for my doctrine, the same cometh of evil.” Yet, some think the Church declared more or less than this when the Church said it was “revealed” to the prophet that children of a parent in a sam-sex marriage should be forbidden from receiving any LDS priesthood ordinance including baptism, according to President Russell M. Nelson (Deseret News and CBS News). But then, the LDS Church announced in April 2019 that someone had repented of this revelation, so now these children can be baptized (Church News). | |
34 1 3 Ne 11:33-40
So according to this, Jesus declared “ye must repent, and become as a little child, and be baptized in my name, or you can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God . . . And whoso shall declare more or less than this, and establish it for my doctrine, the same cometh of evil.”
Yet, some think the Church declared more or less than this when the Church said it was “revealed” to the prophet that children of a parent in a sam-sex marriage should be forbidden from receiving any LDS priesthood ordinance including baptism, according to President Russell M. Nelson ([Deseret News](https://www.deseret.com/2016/1/11/20580216/becoming-true-millennials#president-russell-m-nelson-speaks-during-the-worldwide-devotional-for-young-adults-held-on-the-brigham-young-university-hawaii-campus-on-jan-10) and [CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mormon-leader-says-policy-against-gay-marriage-was-word-from-god/)).
But then, the LDS Church announced in April 2019 that someone had repented of this revelation, so now these children can be baptized ([Church News](https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/news/policy-changes-announced-for-members-in-gay-marriages-children-of-lgbt-parents?lang=eng)). | |
35 1 3 Ne 11:33-40
So according to this, Jesus declared “ye must repent, and become as a little child, and be baptized in my name, or you can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God . . . And whoso shall declare more or less than this, and establish it for my doctrine, the same cometh of evil.”
Yet, some think the Church declared more or less than this when the Church said it was “revealed” to the prophet that children of a parent in a sam-sex marriage should be forbidden from receiving any LDS priesthood ordinance including baptism, according to President Russell M. Nelson ([Deseret News](https://www.deseret.com/2016/1/11/20580216/becoming-true-millennials#president-russell-m-nelson-speaks-during-the-worldwide-devotional-for-young-adults-held-on-the-brigham-young-university-hawaii-campus-on-jan-10) and [CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mormon-leader-says-policy-against-gay-marriage-was-word-from-god/)).
But then, the LDS Church announced in April 2019 that someone had repented of this revelation, so now these children can be baptized ([Church News](https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/news/policy-changes-announced-for-members-in-gay-marriages-children-of-lgbt-parents?lang=eng)). | |
Trinitarian 361 3 Ne 11:33-40
So according to this, Jesus declared “ye must repent, and become as a little child, and be baptized in my name, or you can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God . . . And whoso shall declare more or less than this, and establish it for my doctrine, the same cometh of evil.”
Yet, some think the Church declared more or less than this when the Church said it was “revealed” to the prophet that children of a parent in a sam-sex marriage should be forbidden from receiving any LDS priesthood ordinance including baptism, according to President Russell M. Nelson ([Deseret News](https://www.deseret.com/2016/1/11/20580216/becoming-true-millennials#president-russell-m-nelson-speaks-during-the-worldwide-devotional-for-young-adults-held-on-the-brigham-young-university-hawaii-campus-on-jan-10) and [CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mormon-leader-says-policy-against-gay-marriage-was-word-from-god/)).
But then, the LDS Church announced in April 2019 that someone had repented of this revelation, so now these children can be baptized ([Church News](https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/news/policy-changes-announced-for-members-in-gay-marriages-children-of-lgbt-parents?lang=eng)). | |
37 1 3 Ne 11:33-40
So according to this, Jesus declared “ye must repent, and become as a little child, and be baptized in my name, or you can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God . . . And whoso shall declare more or less than this, and establish it for my doctrine, the same cometh of evil.”
Yet, some think the Church declared more or less than this when the Church said it was “revealed” to the prophet that children of a parent in a sam-sex marriage should be forbidden from receiving any LDS priesthood ordinance including baptism, according to President Russell M. Nelson ([Deseret News](https://www.deseret.com/2016/1/11/20580216/becoming-true-millennials#president-russell-m-nelson-speaks-during-the-worldwide-devotional-for-young-adults-held-on-the-brigham-young-university-hawaii-campus-on-jan-10) and [CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mormon-leader-says-policy-against-gay-marriage-was-word-from-god/)).
But then, the LDS Church announced in April 2019 that someone had repented of this revelation, so now these children can be baptized ([Church News](https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/news/policy-changes-announced-for-members-in-gay-marriages-children-of-lgbt-parents?lang=eng)). | |
38 1 3 Ne 11:33-40
So according to this, Jesus declared “ye must repent, and become as a little child, and be baptized in my name, or you can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God . . . And whoso shall declare more or less than this, and establish it for my doctrine, the same cometh of evil.”
Yet, some think the Church declared more or less than this when the Church said it was “revealed” to the prophet that children of a parent in a sam-sex marriage should be forbidden from receiving any LDS priesthood ordinance including baptism, according to President Russell M. Nelson ([Deseret News](https://www.deseret.com/2016/1/11/20580216/becoming-true-millennials#president-russell-m-nelson-speaks-during-the-worldwide-devotional-for-young-adults-held-on-the-brigham-young-university-hawaii-campus-on-jan-10) and [CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mormon-leader-says-policy-against-gay-marriage-was-word-from-god/)).
But then, the LDS Church announced in April 2019 that someone had repented of this revelation, so now these children can be baptized ([Church News](https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/news/policy-changes-announced-for-members-in-gay-marriages-children-of-lgbt-parents?lang=eng)). | |
Hell 391 3 Ne 11:33-40
So according to this, Jesus declared “ye must repent, and become as a little child, and be baptized in my name, or you can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God . . . And whoso shall declare more or less than this, and establish it for my doctrine, the same cometh of evil.”
Yet, some think the Church declared more or less than this when the Church said it was “revealed” to the prophet that children of a parent in a sam-sex marriage should be forbidden from receiving any LDS priesthood ordinance including baptism, according to President Russell M. Nelson ([Deseret News](https://www.deseret.com/2016/1/11/20580216/becoming-true-millennials#president-russell-m-nelson-speaks-during-the-worldwide-devotional-for-young-adults-held-on-the-brigham-young-university-hawaii-campus-on-jan-10) and [CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mormon-leader-says-policy-against-gay-marriage-was-word-from-god/)).
But then, the LDS Church announced in April 2019 that someone had repented of this revelation, so now these children can be baptized ([Church News](https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/news/policy-changes-announced-for-members-in-gay-marriages-children-of-lgbt-parents?lang=eng)). | |
Hell 401 3 Ne 11:33-40
So according to this, Jesus declared “ye must repent, and become as a little child, and be baptized in my name, or you can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God . . . And whoso shall declare more or less than this, and establish it for my doctrine, the same cometh of evil.”
Yet, some think the Church declared more or less than this when the Church said it was “revealed” to the prophet that children of a parent in a sam-sex marriage should be forbidden from receiving any LDS priesthood ordinance including baptism, according to President Russell M. Nelson ([Deseret News](https://www.deseret.com/2016/1/11/20580216/becoming-true-millennials#president-russell-m-nelson-speaks-during-the-worldwide-devotional-for-young-adults-held-on-the-brigham-young-university-hawaii-campus-on-jan-10) and [CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mormon-leader-says-policy-against-gay-marriage-was-word-from-god/)).
But then, the LDS Church announced in April 2019 that someone had repented of this revelation, so now these children can be baptized ([Church News](https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/news/policy-changes-announced-for-members-in-gay-marriages-children-of-lgbt-parents?lang=eng)). | |
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